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[–]SovereignShrimp 11 points12 points  (2 children)

This would actually make a lot of sense. Sirens are one of those things in lore that both should and shouldn’t be explained. Part of the fun is the mystery.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I suppose so, yeah, but I love overexplaining things n worldbuilding n such hehe

[–]SovereignShrimp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, honestly, I’m in the same boat.

[–]matchak7 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I like it

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you :3

[–]matchak7 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Once a siren dies though isn't a new one born somewhere else?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

No? It's shown in BL3 that the passing on of powers doesn't have to be to a newborn. Tannis gets Angel's powers despite already being an adult. Where did u get this info lol

[–]matchak7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah they did do that I don't think many people liked that

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Buffy the vampire slayer?

[–]osaquarel 0 points1 point  (10 children)

The siren powers going to troys doesn't begger much thought last the fact that they were conjoined twins, meaning the were sort of already one person before they were split after birth, and that's why troy could use siren powers because he is a part of his sister as much as his sister is a part of him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

I mean, that's kinda what I said.

[–]osaquarel 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Yeah dont mind me, I just realized that because I edited the text before posting it lost what I was trying to say...

Basically there is no jury out on if troy is trans, identical twins can come out as both the same sex or different. Troy isn't trans in any way shape or form

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Actually, you're wrong. Identical twins are always the same sex, they're formed from an embryo that splits in two after being fertilized. They have the same DNA, ergo, the same sex chromosomes.

Conjoined twins are always identical, bc they're a result of the splitting embryos not splitting entirely.

Therefore, either Gearbox fucked up, or one of the Calypsos is trans.

[–]osaquarel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just googled that, seems you're right, but u forget the magical bullshit part of them, ergo sirens, and they aren't the least bit identical, so I guess the trans part still holds no water

[–]osaquarel -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Just googled that, seems you're right, but u forget the magical bullshit part of them, ergo sirens, and they aren't the least bit identical, so I guess the trans part still holds no water

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Redditors ignoring all available logic so they can pretend their fave video game series can't have any lgbtq characters:

[–]osaquarel 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I don't understand, I didn't deny any logic, I don't care about trans characters being in a game, I love borderlands games period, and couldn't give half a shit about the LGBTQ and whatever the fuck else is there, they have their life I have mine, let's live how we want.

My only tidbit was that your opinion is wrong, because if troy was trans we would have been told he was, they probably just fudged the science, which I did, to err is after all human. You came to your conclusion with real life science, and applying it to a world with magic(or sufficiently advanced science).

If you said u didn't agree with my opinion like I did yours that's fine, but jumping to the idiotic statement that I'm looking for whatever reason to make sure there isn't a trans character "in their fave videogame series" is just stupid. Like I give a shit about trans people.

I live in a 3rd world country where getting food and 5 hours of steady electricity is a challenge and you come to me with your bullshit western ideology. I couldn't give half a shit.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Ok, I'm sorry, I assumed wrongly you were trying to debate me like most people on these subreddits. I still respectfully disagree with your opinion

[–]osaquarel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I apologize for the outburst. Still the trans thing has a shaky ground to stand on, it can easily be explained away by human error, like I was until you mentioned it and I went to check. Since they are unidentical, and even have different heights, and body structure. This can then be classified under the parasitic class of twins, where one twin is more developed than the other, in worse cases one twin completely parasitise on the less developed twin killing them. It's why troy loses an arm.

They are not identical twins so no one has to be trans, but then why does troy have siren powers? Since only women can get them naturally.

I can only explain it as him just having the ability to parasitise siren abilities since he already was doing that in the womb. But that's just my take

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are not identical twins so no one has to be trans, but then why does troy have siren powers? Since only women can get them naturally.

As I explained in the post, we don't know if siren powers go by gender identity or biological sex (Anthony Burch said on his ask.fm that it's the former, but in actual canon it's unconfirmed) Troy being trans would explain that (and assume siren powers go by biological sex) which is why it's a common headcanon in the fandom.

[–]KingTangOfShang6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t there a thing where there can only be 5 sirens in the universe at one time? All their powers are individualistic too right?